Comments on: Making Fresh Software Developers Productive

By: g0ma

g0ma — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:41:52 +0000

imho, guts is just a step towards productivity.

By: paolo

paolo — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:36:51 +0000

the right practicum/ojt exposure comes to mind right now. for most students, this will be their first hint of what it’s like to be out there in the real world. what kind of projects do students get from the industry nowadays?

By: Miguel

Miguel — Wed, 06 Jun 2007 15:07:06 +0000

Yeah I have more to say about IT education and skills. More posts to come.

About the blog… you must know my old blog. I never link to it from here.

By: Connie

Connie — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:58:44 +0000

P.S. Migs, iba na naman location ng blog mo… Even the permalink structure…??

By: Connie

Connie — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:56:36 +0000

Re “The result is that the fresh software developers need to be trained by their hiring companies. That is, if they make the grade at all.”

With the kind of education kids are getting from the so-called IT schools, making the grade is a serious problem.

By: Miguel

Miguel — Sat, 02 Jun 2007 05:10:14 +0000

Eugene,
That’s right, most companies want a tool-oriented (or buzzword-compatible) graduate. Perhaps only a few don’t. As for our Java users group, it might have “Java” in the name but it’s not purely tool oriented. In the Java world, tool oriented discussion would be how to use development environments or application servers. We talk about theory as well.

Anonymouz,
I think hip2b2 can tell you that it’s not that simple. But what I worry about more is when the school may encourage some progressive thinking, but then it’s the students who don’t want it.

By: Anonymouz

Anonymouz — Sat, 02 Jun 2007 04:15:47 +0000

Why not just introduce a tool-building subject into the curriculum?

By: Eugene

Eugene — Sat, 02 Jun 2007 00:45:56 +0000

I agree about the tool-oriented-ness of many computer-related studies. We lack the means for teaching the basics and logical thinking.

How can this be improved? I’m now sure how the industry-academe cooperation will help that much because the industry is looking for possible hires and will result in tool-oriented teaching too. User groups might help, but a Java-oriented users group or a Perl-oriented users groups is “tool”-oriented as well.

I’m not sure if there’s an easy solution.

By: hip2b2

hip2b2 — Fri, 01 Jun 2007 22:04:05 +0000

this is all good but we still need to do more work. i feel that there are a lot of not so difficult things we can teach that would really help students when they go to work.